none of which deal with the fiscal cliff. they deal with honoring the last surviving world war i veteran who died last year dealing with drywall safety and things. and there will be a couple meetings again democrats in one room and republicans in the other, and they will try to see if the republican leaders and the democratic leaders have produced if they can possibly sell this to the house of representatives. historically that has been a hard, hard sell. >> you know, you have been keeping us uh prized all morning and all afternoon and in the evening with your e-mails and your blog. one of the things you pointed out today is that it is not necessarily that line of taxes. no one above or below a certain point. but it is the spending cuts that are really the target, that are really the sticking point. why is that? >> that's always the hardest part. back to the 1980s when the deficits have started to explode, there have been four or five pieces of legislation over the past 30 years dating back to hollings that was the first sequ